Barton Gellman:
You understand, I’ve usually puzzled that.
And I made a decision to dig deep and simply discover one indignant Trump supporter who believes that the election was stolen and believes that January 6 was a nonviolent, peaceable protest towards a stolen election, and to see what are the sources of this perception, and whether or not I might have an effect on his beliefs by giving him empirical info.
And this can be a firefighter from New York. And so he instructed me, for instance, that it wasn’t the patriots on January 6 who dedicated acts of violence. It was agent provocateur, it was particular forces models disguised as Antifa who carried out the violence.
And I requested him, effectively, how are you aware that? And he stated, effectively, I heard it from this normal on Rumble, the right-wing video web site.
So, I known as up the final, and I requested him a number of questions and found that he had no data in any respect. He was — he was principally making it up and surmising it.
And I went by the entire dialog with the firefighter, defined that the Pentagon had put out statements saying that there was no such particular forces and so forth.
And he simply did not consider me. I might deliver him the info on a platter, however he wasn’t shopping for them.