Fauci and Paul spar over NIH ‘gain of function’ research, Paul urges Fauci to resign
1 00:00:00,150 –> 00:00:06,390 >> You know Senator the new let’s make it clear for the people who are listening. The current definition was 2 00:00:06,390 –> 00:00:11,970 done over a two to three year period by outside bodies including the 3 00:00:11,970 –> 00:00:17,670 NSA APB to conferences by the National Academy of Science Engineering 4 00:00:17,670 –> 00:00:24,360 and Medicine on December 2014. March 2016 we 5 00:00:24,360 –> 00:00:30,090 commissioned external risk benefit assessment and then on January of 6 00:00:30,090 –> 00:00:35,610 2017 the Office of Science and Technology Policy of the White House 7 00:00:35,610 –> 00:00:41,400 issued the current policy and coincided I have not only indefinite any deferred 8 00:00:41,400 –> 00:00:46,590 on the same day the NIH said that yes there was a gain of function and we were on the 9 00:00:46,590 –> 00:00:51,810 same day the definition appeared the new definition to try to define a way what’s going on 10 00:00:51,810 –> 00:00:53,540 a we want until you accept it. 11 00:00:53,540 –> 00:00:59,130 >> And do you expect accept responsibility. We’re not going to get anywhere close to trying to prevent another lab 12 00:00:59,130 –> 00:01:04,440 leak of this dangerous sort of experiment. You won’t admit that it’s dangerous and for that lack of judgment I think it’s 13 00:01:04,440 –> 00:01:05,520 time that you resign. 14 00:01:05,700 –> 00:01:09,160 >> Thank you Senator Paul and I would like to give the time to Dr. Hatch. 15 00:01:09,190 –> 00:01:15,180 >> Yeah well there were so many things that are egregious misrepresentation here Madam 16 00:01:15,180 –> 00:01:20,790 Chair that I don’t think I’d be able to refute all of them but just a couple of them for 17 00:01:20,790 –> 00:01:26,220 the listeners to hear for. He was said that I am unwilling to take any responsibility for 18 00:01:26,220 –> 00:01:31,920 the current pandemic. I have no responsibility for the current pandemic 19 00:01:31,920 –> 00:01:38,040 the current pandemic. OK. Number two you said the overwhelming amount 20 00:01:38,040 –> 00:01:41,040 of evidence indicates that’s a lab leak. 21 00:01:41,040 –> 00:01:46,260 >> I believe most card carrying viral file file agents and 22 00:01:46,260 –> 00:01:51,450 molecular virologist would disagree with you. That is much more likely. Even though we 23 00:01:51,450 –> 00:01:57,390 leave open all possibilities it’s much more likely that this was a natural occurrence. 24 00:01:57,390 –> 00:02:02,840 >> Third you say we contested 80000 animals and no animals have been found with 25 00:02:02,840 –> 00:02:03,160 Cove. 26 00:02:03,220 –> 00:02:09,030 >> Any part of the time is that first and third response you made a statement just a moment ago 27 00:02:09,030 –> 00:02:14,220 . That’s completely incorrect. Will you say we continue to 28 00:02:14,220 –> 00:02:19,680 support research at the wool Hahn Institute of Virology you proved it in August 29 00:02:19,680 –> 00:02:24,930 of last year. No no. Your statement says quote I wrote it down as 30 00:02:24,930 –> 00:02:25,950 you were writing. 31 00:02:25,980 –> 00:02:31,320 >> You continue to support research at the Woodlawn Institute of our current committee a 32 00:02:31,320 –> 00:02:36,420 month ago and shed your full trust behind a scientist and you still support the research over there. 33 00:02:36,420 –> 00:02:41,600 >> You said it a month ago in your email. I have allowed Dr. Fouchier to respond. You’ve had your time. I’m going to give him. 34 00:02:41,600 –> 00:02:47,040 He’s going to be dishonest he ought to be jail Senator part. We will allow Dr. Fouchier to respond after 35 00:02:47,040 –> 00:02:50,230 you’ve given accusations like that doctor fact. 36 00:02:50,400 –> 00:02:55,590 >> Well I don’t have any more to say except to say that as usual and I have a great deal of 37 00:02:55,590 –> 00:03:00,780 respect for this body of the Senate and it makes me very uncomfortable to 38 00:03:00,780 –> 00:03:06,540 have to say something but he is egregiously incorrect in what he says. Thank you. 39 00:03:06,560 –> 00:03:11,250 >> History will figure that out of a tone that we will turn to Senator Hatch and thank you.
